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    DuckDuckGo ‘Restores’ Pirate Sites and Points to Bing as Culprit

    news.movim.eu / TorrentFreak · Wednesday, 20 April - 14:41 · 4 minutes

duckduck It’s not a secret that Google and Bing are tweaking their search results to accommodate copyright holders .

However, it was a surprise to see that pirate and related sites also started to disappear from DuckDuckGo, as we reported last week .

An initial review revealed that the official domains for sites such as The Pirate Bay, Fmovies, and YouTube-DL were no longer showing up. This led us to conclude that they had been removed for some reason or another.

Not Removed?

DuckDuckGo didn’t immediately respond to our findings but after two days DuckDuckGo founder and CEO Gabriel Weinberg reacted on Twitter.

According to Weinberg, the search engine never removed anything. Instead, the problems were attributed to the “site:” search operator we used as an example in our article. Apparently, that is broken.

“We are not ‘purging’ YouTube-dl or The Pirate Bay and they both have actually been continuously available in our results if you search for them by name (which most people do). Our site: operator (which hardly anyone uses) is having issues which we are looking into,” Weinberg wrote .

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These comments suggest that our coverage was wrong. However, that’s not the full picture, far from it.

When we wrote our article, we didn’t only use the “site:” operator. We also searched for keywords directly, without the domain names showing up. This means that the sites were unfindable for another reason.

DuckDuckGo Restoral

Coinciding with the tweets from DuckDuckGo’s CEO, several of the domains we listed in our article started to reappear in the search engine. The Pirate Bay homepage reappeared, and the same applies to YouTube-DL and Fmovies, even when we use the ‘broken’ “site:” operator .

These restorals supported the suggestion that this was merely a temporary technical issue. However, it wasn’t hard to find other examples of domains that were still unfindable.

On Sunday, we updated our article to add that YTMP3.cc and Prostylex were not appearing in search results; a few hours later these reappeared as well.

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While we were amazed by this magical superpower that allows us to revive websites by simply mentioning them, someone else was pulling the strings. Behind the scenes, DuckDuckGo was working hard to restore sites that were mentioned in the media.

It’s Bing

At this point, it became clear that the search engine wasn’t at all happy with what was happening. They never actively removed any of these sites. Instead, a third-party data provider ‘removed’ the results for them.

Like many other smaller search engines, DuckDuckGo uses hundreds of data sources, including Bing. After some back and forths, DuckDuckGo’s spokesperson informed us that Microsoft’s search engine was the culprit.

“Yes, this is related to using data from Bing,” DuckDuckGo’s Senior Communications Manager Allison Goodman said.

Goodman also asked us to share a list of additional sites that were affected, so they could look into these. And indeed, a few hours after we sent over more affected domains such as 1fichier.com, 2embed.ru, and torrentgalaxy.com, these were restored as well.

Broader Issue

It’s understandable that DuckDuckGo wasn’t happy with the coverage. However, the problem was real. And since it’s emanating from Bing, other smaller search engines that rely on that data may be affected as well.

“Since these occurrences originated on Bing, they were passed down to our results, as well as other Bing syndication partners,” Goodman clarifies.

For DuckDuckGo, it may be tricky to resolve the issue permanently as long as it relies on Bing. Aside from the potential legal implications of actively restoring pirate sites, there are dozens, if not hundreds of other domains that are still unfindable.

We don’t intend to keep hammering on this but, at the time of writing the streaming service gimy.app is not showing up in the search results.

Inaccurate DMCA Removals?

While looking into these issues, we noticed that Bing also affects DuckDuckGo in other ways. From what we can see, the DMCA removals also spill over, including the inaccurate ones.

For example, some news articles from TorrentFreak are not available in Bing, presumably due to takedown requests. That includes this news report about a leaked Game of Thrones episode.

A few weeks ago Warner Bros. asked Google to remove this article. Google refused to do so, but it looks like Bing complied as the article is unfindable there. When we search for the title or even the URL, it’s not there .

The same applies to DuckDuckGo, where the article is not listed . Instead, the top hit is a copy of our reporting . In Google’s search results our news article is the first result, as expected .

All in all, we want to emphasize that these issues are not caused by DuckDuckGo, which has been trying hard to mitigate the problem. However, the issues do exist and it is clearly more than a broken search functionality.

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    « Disparition » de sites pirates : que s’est-il passé avec DuckDuckGo ?

    news.movim.eu / Numerama · Tuesday, 19 April - 12:47

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Le moteur de recherche DuckDuckGo, en pointe sur la protection de la vie privée, est accusé de purger son index pour retirer des sites pirates permettant de télécharger illégalement des œuvres. [Lire la suite]

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    DuckDuckGo ‘Removes’ Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results (Updated)

    news.movim.eu / TorrentFreak · Tuesday, 19 April - 09:48 · 5 minutes

pirate duck Launched in 2008, search engine DuckDuckGo is a go-to service for Internet users who value their privacy.

Unlike many competitors, the site doesn’t keep a record of users’ IP addresses or other sensitive information.

In recent years, the site also stood out by returning cleaner results than competitors such as Google, which actively alters its algorithms to downrank pirate sites . At one point, Google even pointed users to DuckDuckGo when they searched for Pirate Bay proxies.

DuckDuckGo Fears Liability

The privacy-focused search engine is not immune to potential copyright issues, however. This first became apparent when it removed several search shortcuts for ‘pirate’ sites. These “bangs”, as they are called, were seen as a potential copyright infringement liability.

“We operate globally, as do bangs, and products that actively facilitate interaction with illegal content can have us and our employees face significant legal liability, and jeopardizing the entire service,” DuckDuckBang’s Tagawa explained.

DuckDuckGo ended up removing roughly 2,000 bangs for popular sites including The Pirate Bay, 1337x, and RARBG. At the time, the search engine stressed that these sites were still listed in search results. However, that appears to have changed now.

Pirate Domains are Deindexed?

When doing some research earlier today we noticed that several popular pirate sites were no longer showing up in DuckDuckGo’s results globally. Initially, we thought that some popular pages had been removed following DMCA takedown notices, but there is clearly more going on than that.

Update April 17: DuckDuckGo informs us that no domains were removed but they are having some issues and we still have questions. More details are at the bottom of the article.

For example, searching for “site:thepiratebay.org” is supposed to return all results DuckDuckGo has indexed for The Pirate Bay’s main domain name. In this case, there are none.

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The lack of results is not tied to a specific country and manually fiddling with the region settings didn’t change anything either. Apparently, DuckDuckgo has simply removed all thepiratebay.org URLs from its index.

This whole-site removal isn’t limited to The Pirate Bay either. When we do similar searches for 1337x.to , Fmovies.to , Lookmovie.io , and 123moviesfree.net , no results appear. For RarBG.to and Fitgirl-repacks we only get one result, instead of the hundreds of thousands we see on other search engines.

The absence of results doesn’t only apply to pirate sites themselves. For example, there are no results for the streaming portals Flixtor and Primewire. In addition, the associated status pages, which merely include links to the official domains, are not indexed either.

Even several popular stream-rippers have been completely wiped from the search results. That includes 2conv.com , Flvto.bid, and several others.

Youtube-dl Gone?

The most surprising omission, by far, is that the official site for the open-source software youtube-dl is not indexed by DuckDuckGo . This site certainly doesn’t host or link to any copyright-infringing material.

The youtube-dl code repository was previously removed from GitHub, following a takedown notice sent by the RIAA. After looking more closely at the matter, Github eventually restored it.

We don’t know why the official youtube-dl.org website is not in DuckDuckGo’s search results, but at least the official GitHub repository is still findable.

Why?

TorrentFreak reached out to DuckDuckGo to discover why these domain names are not showing up in its search results. At the time of publication, we have yet to hear back. It wouldn’t be a surprise if the move is copyright-related, though.

A few months ago, Google also started to remove several pirate site domains from its search results. However, in Google’s case, these delistings are regional and linked to ISP blocking orders.

It’s worth pointing out that many pirate sites are still findable in DuckDuckGo. However, the search engine could certainly provide some transparency to help clear up what’s happening exactly.

Rightsholders will be happy to see that pirate sites are removed from DuckDuckGo, but it’s not without risks for users. While seasoned pirates can probably still locate the sites in question, more shady knockoff sites will now appear higher in its search results.

Update April 17 : DuckDuckGo has responded to our findings and says that no domains were removed, according to their records.

Before publishing the article we searched for YouTube-dl and The Pirate Bay without the “site:” operator the official domains were not showing up at our end. They do now.

DuckDuckGo’s statement below seems to contradict our initial findings, however.

“After looking into this, our records indicate that YouTube-dl and The Pirate Bay were not removed from our search results when you searched for them directly by name or URL — as you noted in your piece. This is how the vast majority of people navigate to a page.”

“As our CEO & Founder shared in this tweet , we are having issues with our site: operator, and not just for these sites, but now at least the official site should be coming up for people when they use the site: operator for them.”

Interestingly, both YouTube-dl and Thepiratebay.org still don’t show up on Bing. We asked DuckDuckGo whether this could be related to Bing data they use and will update this article if we hear back (see update 2 below).

Still Unfindable?

Also, there are other “pirate” sites that we didn’t mention in the original article that are still unfindable in DuckDuckGo.

For example, YTMP3.cc, which is one of the most popular YouTube rippers with millions of monthly visitors. According to the “site:” operator there are 0 results indexed. And searching for YTMP3.cc or YTMP3 doesn’t bring up the site either. Google has no trouble finding this domain (but Bing does).

Or what about the torrent site Prostylex.org? According to the “site:” operator there are zero results indexed and searching for Prostylex.org or Prostylex doesn’t bring up the official site either. Again, the domain is findable in Google.

We don’t doubt that DuckDuckGo hasn’t intentionally removed any URLs but there still appear to be strange issues with pirate-related searches.

Update 2: A DuckDuckGo spokesperson confirmed to TorrentFreak that the issues are related to Bing data.

Update April 18: The unfindable domains we pointed out in the update are back now as well, after we informed DuckDuckGo about the issue.

Update April 19: We’ve written a follow-up here .

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    DuckDuckGo announces a new privacy-focused Mac web browser

    news.movim.eu / ArsTechnica · Tuesday, 12 April - 16:36 · 1 minute

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Enlarge / DuckDuckGo's browser for macOS. (credit: DuckDuckGo)

DuckDuckGo, the privacy-focused search engine with the weird name, already offers web browsers for iOS and Android and browser extensions for Chrome , Firefox , and Safari . But on Tuesday, the company announced that it is getting into desktop browsers, too. DuckDuckGo for Mac is available starting today as an invite-only beta that "is designed to be used as an everyday browser that truly protects your privacy."

Among other features, DuckDuckGo says that its browser will automatically manage cookie consent pop-ups "on many sites," that it will use encrypted HTTPS connections whenever they're available, and that the browser will block trackers and allow you to clear stored website data on a site-by-site basis. The browser also includes its own password manager that can import data "from other browsers and browser extensions like 1Password or LastPass." Private syncing of passwords and bookmarks between browsers is a planned feature but isn't available in this initial version.

Most alternative browsers are based on Google's Chromium browser and Blink browsing engine so they can benefit from Chrome's majority position in the browser market. Most webpages are tested with Chrome in mind, and Chrome has a large and well-supported library of browser extensions that third-party browsers can usually tap into without making any changes. The DuckDuckGo browser instead uses Apple's WebKit rendering engine via the WKWebView API .

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    At DuckDuckGo, we've been rolling out search updates that down-rank sites associated with Russian disinformation.

    eyome · Friday, 11 March - 19:47

Après Mozilla qui se sont dit que Firefox devait privilégier les sites avec des infos sûres et vérifiées 🤡

On a Duckduckgo qui s'inquiète qu'on lise des sites pas bien comme ils veulent.

Il va falloir d'urgence arrêter de mêler technologie et idéologie.

Duckduckgo va maintenant faire doublon avec Google, il n'a plus grand intérêt.

Pour ceux qui veulent un moteur qui casse pas les couilles, utilisez des méta-moteurs, comme Searx par exemple.

#Fr, #Duckduckgo, #Politique, #Ideologie, #Russie, #Ukraine, #OTAN, #UE, #Logiciel, #FreeSoftware.

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    DuckDuckGo va déclasser tous les sites diffusant de la désinformation russe

    news.movim.eu / Numerama · Friday, 11 March - 09:45

Le moteur de recherche DuckDuckGo applique un nouveau critère de tri : les sites propageant de la désinformation russe seront moins visibles dans ses résultats. [Lire la suite]

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    Moteur de recherche : le grand gagnant de 2021 est… pas Google !

    news.movim.eu / JournalDuGeek · Wednesday, 29 December - 07:00

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DuckDuckGo se présente souvent comme un "anti-google" capable d'offrir un service similaire, avec une promesse, la confidentialité en plus.

Moteur de recherche : le grand gagnant de 2021 est… pas Google !

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    DuckDuckGo explose : le concurrent de Google axé sur la vie privée vante 46 % plus de recherches en un an

    news.movim.eu / Numerama · Monday, 27 December - 09:28

DuckDuckGo annonce avoir connu une grosse hausse en termes de volume de recherches en un an, pour atteindre 100 millions par jour. C'est toujours peu par rapport aux concurrents, mais cela montre l'intérêt des internautes pour la protection de leur vie privée en ligne. [Lire la suite]

Voitures, vélos, scooters... : la mobilité de demain se lit sur Vroom ! https://www.numerama.com/vroom/